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Trueturning

Diamond
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Jul 2, 2019
In the middle of a war ? Yeah, I can accept that :D

This didn't just start last month tho. No matter what the Post says, there are real reasons for Russia's behavior and Putin is not a madman.

To me, this is why the US loses every confrontation we've been involved in for the past seventy-five years. (Okay, we beat up Grenada. Be still, my heart.) The imbeciles in Worshington can't ever see the other person's side. And our side sucks, so in the end the US loses. Every arfing time.

p.s. Seymour - had to be running a bunch of gas through Ukraine in 2006 because cutting it off just about froze Yurop. And if Nord 1 was big enough, they wouldn't have spent billions buildng Nord 2. So I'ma gonna make a conclusion that even recently, lots of Russia gas was going through Ukraine. And somehow, the timing of all this is connected.

USA is under the spotlight always. It is envy. Let those without sin throw the first stone. Besides the people living today are not to be blamed for something they never did. I know it is popular to try that but it really does not work well.

It surprises me you are so supportive of Putins view now what changed? Oh yeah the pact between China and the RF. Don’t look too close as Xi has gotten a real good sense of the actual reality of this screwed up war.
 

Pathogen

Hot Rolled
Joined
Oct 18, 2016
When a 737 becomes a lawn dart, is it poor quality control on off the shelf parts, and/or lack of professional maintenance?

What is a safe aeroplane to fly round trip to Europe?
 

Bill D

Diamond
Joined
Apr 1, 2004
Location
Modesto, CA USA
It makes no sense that russia owns Konigsburg/Kalingrad. Just before this war broke out putin sent a 75 kiloton LNG tanker there so they would have gas. AFAIK it is still there port.
Bill D
 
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Location
Totalitarian Ruling Capital, EastAsia
Butt (!) you said the election was all above board.... :whistling:
Whisle all you like, the sun really does come up in the east, even if the Post reports on it. There is no, none, not one single bit of credible evidence that the fucking election was "stolen". Not one. The entire thing was watched by republican observers at every step (as well as democrats), they have not come up with even one verified case of "massive" fraud. In every case where those imbeciles forced a recount, they did the count and the numbers came out even worse for Trump.

This whole "stolen election" crap is beyond stupid.
 

jaguar36

Cast Iron
Joined
May 13, 2015
Location
SE, PA
When a 737 becomes a lawn dart, is it poor quality control on off the shelf parts, and/or lack of professional maintenance?

What is a safe aeroplane to fly round trip to Europe?
Don't forget the possibility of foul play or pilot suicide/murder.

The 737 or any other Boeing/Airbus are all incredibly safe ways to travel. Order of magnitude safer than driving. When flown by a western country they are even safer.
 

Bill D

Diamond
Joined
Apr 1, 2004
Location
Modesto, CA USA
Old Ukrainian. women give sunflower seeds to russian soldiers to put in their pocket. To mark their graves.
Bill D

In Ukraines fields the sunflowers blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie,
In Ukraines fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though sunflowers grow
In Ukraines fields.
 

Big B

Diamond
Joined
Jun 26, 2009
Location
Michigan, USA
Whisle all you like, the sun really does come up in the east, even if the Post reports on it. There is no, none, not one single bit of credible evidence that the fucking election was "stolen". Not one. The entire thing was watched by republican observers at every step (as well as democrats), they have not come up with even one verified case of "massive" fraud. In every case where those imbeciles forced a recount, they did the count and the numbers came out even worse for Trump.

This whole "stolen election" crap is beyond stupid.

It was only stolen from trump but the republicons that got elected on the same ballots that Biden won on are all good. A person would need to be somewhat challenged to find this argument plausible.
 

standardparts

Diamond
Joined
Mar 26, 2019
Don't forget the possibility of foul play or pilot suicide/murder.

The 737 or any other Boeing/Airbus are all incredibly safe ways to travel. Order of magnitude safer than driving. When flown by a western country they are even safer.

I wonder if there are any scheduled U.S. major airlines using any 737 series for trans-Atlantic flights? Only thing I could find stated Aloha Airlines 'operated' 737s between Hawaii and the U.S. mainland...makes no mention of Europe. Might be more comfortable to be on a larger aircraft in first class.

"ETOPS" ETOPS - Wikipedia.
 

standardparts

Diamond
Joined
Mar 26, 2019
More setbacks for Boeing....seems like they can't seem to move a couple programs forward. The 777X 5 years behind schedule (airfreight) and the 737 MAX 10.

$Billions in orders backlogged.

"Udvar-Hazy's warning came days after the head of Dublin-based lessor Avolon told a different Dublin event hosted by Airfinance Journal that Boeing had "lost its way" after a barrage of problems and may need new management"

Link to discussion:

737 MAX 10 Uncertainty Potentially holding up 16 billion dollars worth of Sales - Airliners.net
 

camscan

Titanium
Joined
Sep 5, 2011
Location
Norfolk
But....how's all these new planes fit in with the new climate change BS?
It was said 2 years ago that "travel in the future will be limited" and people should get used to "holidays at home".
This was around all the lockdowns of course.
While a HUGE amount of private jets were still flying around....:rolleyes5:


Keep up Barbter, those are PRIVATE jets and they dont count.
 

standardparts

Diamond
Joined
Mar 26, 2019
But....how's all these new planes fit in with the new climate change BS?
It was said 2 years ago that "travel in the future will be limited" and people should get used to "holidays at home".
This was around all the lockdowns of course.
While a HUGE amount of private jets were still flying around....:rolleyes5:

Climate change and a whole lot of other issues will likely have great impact on commercial as well as military aviation. Both of the BIG players--Boeing and Airbus are in good part reliant on government spending so it's doubtful either will exit the aircraft business although no doubt commercial aviation is going to go through great changes. Boeing selling off it's commercial aircraft headquarters in Seattle(Renton?) a year or so ago and now announcing Global Headquarters will move to Virginia might signal a move away from commercial aviation with more emphasis on the military side of things.

Who knows...At one time it was said someone like Elon Musk could never break into automotive mass production and now Tesla is delivering a million or more cars a year. Maybe someone with a fresh ideas and working from a clean slate develop aircraft that will service future generations.

Possibly a renewed interest and $$commitment$$ to high speed rail? Should be a great future for those high tech engineer types along with more opportunity for foreign countries in aerospace manufacturing.
 

standardparts

Diamond
Joined
Mar 26, 2019
I hope Chicago can survive without Boeing.

Even losing Boeing and the Bears moving out of the city to the suburbs the good news is Mayor Lightfoot has picked Bally's to open a casino. Should attract lots of visitors. Lots of good jobs.
 








 
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