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Bench grinder mounted diamond blade sharpener

arsenix

Plastic
Joined
Jul 28, 2011
Location
Milpitas, CA
I forgot to mention the back of the table should be higher then the front near the wheel so your sharpening and seeing the top side of the blade, On the one on the video the wheel is turning clockwise and the back of the table is high in back 5 degree's blade rake for regular gray iron. If your scraping steel use 20 to 30 use a positive rake and Turcite/Rulon a neg. 12 degree rake on a BIAX 1/2 moon blade 60mm tip radius
This makes sense.

Sounds like I should suck it up and just buy a carbide grinder. There are a few listed locally I'll shop around.

Appreciate the testimonials shared!
 

Richard King

Diamond
Joined
Jul 12, 2005
Location
Cottage Grove, MN 55016
I know that some cheap ones are made in China that will work. Shoot I just checked and a Cheap Chinese one on MSCdirect are $600.00 and a Baldor are3 grand...better buy a used one or make a lapper..
 

rmcphearson

Cast Iron
Joined
Jan 12, 2008
Location
Rochester, NY
arsenix, I need a proper scraper sharpener too. I'd like to create something similar but even better than this one below. I would like your help. I'm in San Jose. (I can't figure how to edit my location)

 
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rmcphearson

Cast Iron
Joined
Jan 12, 2008
Location
Rochester, NY
Ideally, this scraper sharpener will be capable of sharpening non-carbide scrapers (well) too. I'd like to get some experience with non carbide scrapers. And I don't need/want to sharpen carbide lathe bits on it. Only scrapers.
 

michiganbuck

Diamond
Joined
Jun 28, 2012
Location
Mt Clemens, Michigan 48035
Cool homemade grinder, a few things I would have done differently but his machine looks good...and that he made it practically using hand tools shows that such a machine can easily be .

A few things I should mention, Grinding wet grinds much better, try to not grind any steel with diamond wheels or disks, and a small plastic bottle can be used as a fingernail test gauge.
 
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dcsipo

Diamond
Joined
Oct 13, 2014
Location
Baldwin, MD/USA
I've looked through the many (dozens?) of different low speed lapping machines folks have come up with. The "legit" ones are too pricey for my taste, and I was hoping to come up with an easy way to sharpen scraping blades that doesn't take up a lot of room in the shop and that I can put away easily when I'm not using. My idea, maybe a silly one, is to built a little rig to spin diamond lapping plates at slow speeds that bolts up to a standard bench grinder. I (like many I'm sure) have a handful of bench grinders kicking around so this seems like a decent idea?

I did some fooling around in CAD and came up with this initial design. Has a few CNC aluminum plates for the bracketry and an aluminum disk for the lapping plate holder. A single sealed bearing is used as the low speed spindle. A flat belt running around the grinder spindle and the outside of the lapping spindle gives a reduction of 12:1. A few laser cut steel plates welded together are used as the work surface, and can be tilted up 30 degrees or down 80 degrees (my idea there is that it can fold all the way down for flat storage). Like several others online I was thinking the diamond plates could be held on by magnets. Given the low forces I was thinking the magnets alone would be fine to hold it in place and stop it from slipping?

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I haven't modeled all the hardware although it should all be stock items. I found a cheap idler pulley on amazon which is modeled in here as a simple fixed tensioner. If I could find an appropriate soft rubber vacuum cleaner belt I suppose I could just stretch it on and go without a tensioner.

This is sized to fit a cheap (terrible in fact) 6" chinese bench grinder I had sitting gathering dust. It has 3x 8-32 threaded holes on a 2" circle on the end for mounting the wheel guard. I have no idea how standard this is. Ideally this would fit a multitude of different bench grinders.

Thoughts, criticism? If this worked maybe I could do a run of parts kits for folks to make their own and/or open source the design. There doesn't seem to be a straightforward way to DIY such a thing currently.
Just use a motor and controller from a treadmill. IMG_1694.JPG
 

LexD

Hot Rolled
Joined
Sep 4, 2002
Location
Riddells Creek,Victoria,Australia
I modified an old 6" bench grinder, that I had at home, to take the cheap diamond plated discs from China in 600 to 3000 grit. I run it at full speed (2850 rpm) and it makes short work out of forming a radius on a carbide blank with a 600 grit disc and produces a mirror finish with the 3000 grit.

The discs have to be bored out to 28mm to suit the flanged retaining nut.

I copied the basic design from something I saw on the internet a few years ago but now I have a few ideas on improving the table so, although it is working very well, there is still quite a bit more work to do on it.

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arsenix

Plastic
Joined
Jul 28, 2011
Location
Milpitas, CA
Given all the feedback here I came up with a new design that is simpler with no reduction. Basically just a tilt table that fits onto a 6" grinder. Should cost me around $50 plus some fun in the garage. Sized so I can make it all from scraps I have kicking around. I'll post some photos when I get home over the weekend. I kinda decided I don't really need a $500 carbide grinder since I otherwise am not going to be grinding many lathe tools.
 

TGTool

Titanium
Joined
Sep 22, 2006
Location
Stillwater, Oklahoma
Someone a while back (I think Carbide Bob) said that the best results sharpening carbide was to have the abrasive wheel movement going "against" the cutting edge when grinding so that small particles are not chipped or broken out of the edge. However, when lapping it should be the opposite direction so the abrasive slurry doesn't round the edge.

Since the work rest table spans the width of the wheel you get a choice of where you work the carbide since one side of the wheel is moving up and the other side down.
 

Richard King

Diamond
Joined
Jul 12, 2005
Location
Cottage Grove, MN 55016
I say to have the wheel traveling from the top to bottom. If the wheel is turning counter clockwise, have the back of the table high, then lay the blade on the left side so you can watch the coolant slurry (good word) rub off the blade so you know the rake is the same all the way on the blade radius. If your have the table low in back your sharpening the bottom of the blade and can't see what your sharpening. Also if you have it low in back the carbide could be pulled off (chip) the cutting edge and you will get a small scratch.in the low scrape mark.
 








 
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