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grounding

Aluminum
Joined
Oct 1, 2021
Any thoughts on removing the front spindle bearing along with retainer plate EE-1128? I've search on PM and can't find any good info on how to remove it. I'm thinking it should just press off, toward the rear of the spindle with a simple jig?

I want to remove it, so I can clean EE-1128 for paint and also make sure the drain hole is clear.
 

M.B. Naegle

Titanium
Joined
Feb 7, 2011
Location
Conroe, TX USA
Agree with most if not all comments. That MG will go back inside without too much trouble. You will need some hardware that is somewhat specialized and some rubber isolating pads for the MG mount points. Some of that may still exist on the base plate where the MG resides now and in the worst case scenario something can be improvised. Feel free to reach out if you need details. I have lots of photos and what not. The 4x4 boxes Cal mentioned can go away as they were added for a junction box for the extensions wires that were added to move the MG out of the belly of the lathe.

My lathe is running the same rig / inline exciter / control panel / and most certainly a 230 VDC exciter.

I would definitely make sure the MG (main generator and exciter generator) brushes and commutators are all in good shape and tuned up before you cram it back in there.

Here is what it will look like tucked back in there (sans the VFD cable powering the MG motor)

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Sorry for the rotated pictures....still haven't figured out the picture posting thing here.
This might be a bit of a stretch and no help to the OP (sorry), but in your first picture there's an brass cast oval tag with R.I. and A. I assume? Is that an inventory tag, and if so, do you know who for? I have the same tag sitting in my desk that came off of a leather sewing machine we manufacture/rebuild, and I'm just curious what company out there was using Monarch lathes and Campbell Lockstitch sewing machines, lol?
 

grounding

Aluminum
Joined
Oct 1, 2021
This might be a bit of a stretch and no help to the OP (sorry), but in your first picture there's an brass cast oval tag with R.I. and A. I assume? Is that an inventory tag, and if so, do you know who for? I have the same tag sitting in my desk that came off of a leather sewing machine we manufacture/rebuild, and I'm just curious what company out there was using Monarch lathes and Campbell Lockstitch sewing machines, lol?
Kelsey-Hayes tag. They are who purchased my machine from the factory.

 

M.B. Naegle

Titanium
Joined
Feb 7, 2011
Location
Conroe, TX USA
Kelsey-Hayes tag. They are who purchased my machine from the factory.

Sorry. Not your machine but the green one that rakort posted pictures of.
 

grounding

Aluminum
Joined
Oct 1, 2021
Got the spindle completely apart. Glad I did, it was filthy inside.
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Anyone know what this M and X stamped on the inside of the spindle is for?
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GrantGunderson

Hot Rolled
Joined
Jun 4, 2021
Location
Bellingham, WA
Looks like there’s a 23xx mark on the outer race
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Anyone know if this rim gets painted?
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And these holes are not factory, correct?
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The "23XX" what I believe is the amount of Eccentricity in the bearing. There will also be what looks like a scratched "V" or check mark on the outside race that indicated the high-spot. You also have a "R595" scratched on there as well. Do you have any more pics of the bearings showing any other markings? Is your front bearing flanged as well? I've been doing a ton of research into all of the bearings for the lathe this week and will post some data in my thread shortly.

Those holes in your top cover are not factory.

I think its fine to paint or not that rim, as a gasket sits over it.
 
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grounding

Aluminum
Joined
Oct 1, 2021
The "23XX" what I believe is the amount of Eccentricity in the bearing. There will also be what looks like a scratched "V" or check mark on the outside race that indicated the high-spot. You also have a "R595" scratched on there as well. Do you have any more pics of the bearings showing any other markings? Is your front bearing flanged as well? I've been doing a ton of research into all of the bearings for the lathe this week and will post some data in my thread shortly.

Those holes in your top cover are not factory.

I think its fine to paint or not that rim, as a gasket sits over it.
I'll look for the V tonight.

That picture is from the very front bearing, and that is the only spindle bearing that is flanged. The flange goes towards the front bearing retainer cover.
Think its important that the bearings inner race goes back on the shaft in the same location on the shaft diameter?

There are other markings on that bearing, that I can send tonight or tomorrow morning.
 

GrantGunderson

Hot Rolled
Joined
Jun 4, 2021
Location
Bellingham, WA
Think it’s important that the bearings inner race goes back on the shaft in the same location on the shaft diameter?

There are other markings on that bearing, that I can send tonight or tomorrow morning.
Yes it is important that the inner race goes back on in the same location. I just detailed those alignment marks from the factory in my thread. You may need a magnifier to find the inner race marking on the bearings. I only found it after whipping it clean and using a flash light at an angle. It’s very faint.

I’d appreciate seeing those other marks on both bearings. I’d like to see all of them, but especially the “##XX” marks on both front spindle bearings and on your rear spindle bearing.
It will help greatly with the bearing research I’ve been doing. Thanks!
 
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grounding

Aluminum
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Yes it is important that the inner race goes back on in the same location. I just detailed those alignment marks from the factory in my thread. You may need a magnifier to find the inner race marking on the bearings. I only found it after whipping it clean and using a flash light at an angle. It’s very faint.

I’d appreciate seeing those other marks on both bearings. I’d like to see all of them, but especially the “##XX” marks on both front spindle bearings and on your rear spindle bearing.
It will help greatly with the bearing research I’ve been doing. Thanks!
no problem. I'll get them tonight or tomorrow morning.
 








 
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