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KO Lee S618 Grinder Disassembly

michiganbuck

Diamond
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Jun 28, 2012
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Mt Clemens, Michigan 48035
Richard King may suggest that you flake broad flat areas of ways..I hope he notices this thread and gives advice.

Likey if he had it that far apart he would re-scrape it to like new....and with that, it would be better than most new SGs on the market today.
 
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Arnox

Plastic
Joined
Oct 19, 2022
Location
Elizabeth Colorado
The things you mentioned to remove the long travel section, could be photoed so other will know how/what to remove.
The chuck top surface finish is not as important as absolutely cool grinding.
often a 30-36-and 46 open grit wheel will be used (perhaps a 54) for chuck grinding.
I am an experienced grinder hand so I use a 46I very open wheel. Chucks can be ground dry, but doing so is a huge chance of heat swelling and burning the chuck. Wet is best even if using a hand spray bottle.
Many guys burn the first chuck grinding by letting it get hot to swell up and suck into the wheel.
best to grind with very small down feeds, frequent sprays, over-travel at the off ends, pause and rest, feeling the chuck for warmth. I use small cross-feeds. lately, I see guys making big cross-feeds perhaps Ok but I think that is taking a chance to burn a chuck. I have groungd chucks that had a .015 low area..a real bugger t grind...Over-tightened chucks can actually bend the top table losing the flatness of the bed way contact.
Here is a good chuck-grinding video.
Good info and tips! Thanks...
 

Arnox

Plastic
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Oct 19, 2022
Location
Elizabeth Colorado
Making progress on all the things needed to purchase and do in order to be ready for re-assembly. Currently welding up holes in the hydraulic tank. Have new pressure / return hoses. Need to buy hydraulic oil, looking in the instruction and parts list book there's a page of oil cross references, but this is ancient. Looking for recommendations...
 

Arnox

Plastic
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Oct 19, 2022
Location
Elizabeth Colorado
Well its been quite a while since my last post. This has been a "time available project", but I have made quite a lot of progress and have a lot of posting to do. One part that took some time was repairing all the holes in the hydraulic oil tank (coolant tank is even worse). Also just getting it cleaned up to weld on was a lot of work! Here's pic of bottom all patched up.Oil Tank Bottom - sml.jpg
 

Arnox

Plastic
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Oct 19, 2022
Location
Elizabeth Colorado
I came up with a modification so the saddle ways can be oiled. I formed a 5/16" brake line which fits real nice into the existing tube in the table. This tube needs to be cut down, as its a bit of a tight fit due to clearance issues with the underside of the table. Here's couple of pics...Saddle Way Oil Tube 1 - sml.jpgSaddle Way Oil Tube 2 - sml.jpg
 

Arnox

Plastic
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Oct 19, 2022
Location
Elizabeth Colorado
I tried to figure out if its possible to set the saddle onto the base with the crossfeed locking mechanism installed. Thought the saddle could be tilted a bit and held to the left side of the way 'V' a bit thus allowing the clearance needed. And as the saddle gets lowered and the locking mechanism clears the inside lip, then move the saddle right and onto the way. Turns out this just can not be done! So the install operation is the reverse of the removal, which is very tedious and frustrating. Here's a couple of pics that show the issue. Its difficult to get good shots of this, probably the 2nd photo shows the issue better. As can be seen the way has an inside lip that the locking mechanism fits around. When in place the locking mechanism, which is a 'C' shape fits around the way inside lip. Once this is done, the crossfeed cylinder needs to be installed. Stay tuned...

Saddle Way Lock Mechanism - sml.jpgSaddle Way Lock Mechanism 2 - sml.jpg
 

Arnox

Plastic
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Oct 19, 2022
Location
Elizabeth Colorado
I decided to do the test run and not install the crossfeed cylinder where it goes, under the saddle. To fill the oil tank takes 5 gallons, actually a bit more. Fired up pump, no leaks, wow! Table cylinder worked great! Crossfeed cylinder only moves inwards and control valves have a bit of oil working up and out. Don't know what's wrong here, but after some thinking and testing decided to remove and take apart the crossfeed valve body. There are two plungers/pistons in it and one of them is stuck solid! Working on getting it freed up now...

Almost Ready for Test Run - sml.jpg
 

Zap921

Cast Iron
Joined
Oct 1, 2018
Hey Buck, what is small to you for stepover on grinding a chuck and could you list a part # for Radiac or Norton (if that's what you use) on the 46I. Thanks!
 

Arnox

Plastic
Joined
Oct 19, 2022
Location
Elizabeth Colorado
Got the stuck piston in the Crossfeed valve body loose and cleaned up/out all parts. Put back in, fired up and it works! But my earlier no leaks statement was premature, as now have leaks in multiple valve stems. Need to buy O-rings for all valves and shafts I guess. Will try contacting the company that bought KO Lee, LeBlond Ltd. Does anyone know of a source for them?

Crossfeed Valve Body Apart - sml.jpg
 








 
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