memphisjed
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Maybe braze the nick, brazing adds a little class to the repair.
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- Thread starter cosmopedro
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I would braze it.
Freedommachine
Hot Rolled
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^^^this.
My 95' wrangler got a small hole in the stainless return line a few years back. I couldn't find a replacement so I split a piece of hose and clamped it with 4 hose clamps. It has not leaked since.
Superbowl
Cast Iron
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Why? One or two pulls on the trigger of a mig gun and the nick is fixed and likely stronger that the base wall. All heat is very localized and the steel of the tack is actually melted in to the steel of the tubing. To braze, you have to heat a very large section of the tubing and the braze material never actually becomes a part of the tube steel.
MwTech Inc
Titanium
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2001 ranger has 56-72 psi fuel pressure during KOEO test.
Anything short of replacing the line using oem connections is just ....well........
Anything short of replacing the line using oem connections is just ....well........
BT Fabrication
Stainless
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plumbing flare tools are not the same!
only use the automotive ones due to pressures and sealing capability of the double flaring tools.
im more surprised that a 2001 ranger still exists and isn't in the crusher. Id probably guess the fuel line is all rusted over and soft all the way down.
better bet is to make a whole new length of it, go to local napa,or wherever and get bulk line and a flaring tool and fuel injection hose clamps. trying to flare old rusty line will keep you running in circles.
Superbowl
Cast Iron
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Typical mig wire has a minimum strength of 70,000 psi2001 ranger has 56-72 psi fuel pressure during KOEO test.
Anything short of replacing the line using oem connections is just ....well........
ER70S-6 Welding Wire MTC, Specification, Chemical-mechanical Properties
ER70S-6 is a solid low carbon steel solid filler wire or (rod) used for TIG Welding & MIG/MAG (GMAW) Welding applications.
www.materialwelding.com
it laughs at your puny fuel pressure.
Rob F.
Diamond
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If you consider welding, remember it is stainless so use stainless wire and best to purge the inside of tube with argon as well.
MwTech Inc
Titanium
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Superbowl
Been welding for 30 years.......proficient in MIG, TIg, Stick. so know all about that....
It's the liability of the whole process.
I don't care if he uses bubble gum, its his truck. but rigging a pressurized fuel systems is just asking for issues.
We have no idea his qualifications.....
Besides how is he going to weld it with gas in the lines????
Please explain that process....
Argue with that.......
Been welding for 30 years.......proficient in MIG, TIg, Stick. so know all about that....
It's the liability of the whole process.
I don't care if he uses bubble gum, its his truck. but rigging a pressurized fuel systems is just asking for issues.
We have no idea his qualifications.....
Besides how is he going to weld it with gas in the lines????
Please explain that process....
Argue with that.......
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Lakeside53
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Look up "swagelok" fittings... https://www.superloknorthamerica.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-s29oM3M_AIVFxOtBh159gnaEAAYAiAAEgKuJvD_BwE
They make "everything" so dig in the catalog for the 8mm joiners.
We use them in critical applications all the time.
They make "everything" so dig in the catalog for the 8mm joiners.
We use them in critical applications all the time.
Strostkovy
Stainless
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I have good results with regular compression couplings. They hold very well.
cosmopedro
Plastic
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We’re not ALL experts and pros here, and we don’t ALL have all the tools we need… some of us are looking for advice - ADVICE, not criticism - from someone who’s been there/done that… I’m sorry you have the attitude you have but I’m damn sure not the reason for it. I admit to being a fabricobbler - whether you want to admit it or not you weren’t born an expert either!
I come from farm stock so sometimes the best fix is the cobbled together mess that’s gonna get the tractor back to the barn so you’re not working need-deep in mud.
Have a pleasant life, DDoug.
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cosmopedro
Plastic
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Interestingly, that’s the ultimate plan… it’s winter in New England, we hafta work in the driveway, and I’m just tryna get the Ranger thru to warm weather… the rubber fuel line has been holding well with just a few exceptions, and I don’t want grandson out tryna tighten clamps at night on a side road so I thought a flare fitting might just be the ticket til spring.
I used a borrowed pro-level bubble flare tool for the brake line - which I could get out of the truck easily - but the fuel line is a different story.
Might end up saving my pennies and buying the same tool I borrowed - would be a really nice addition to the shop - but for now might go compression and risk the vibration issue.
Thanks for being more helpful than critical - I appreciate that!!
Cole2534
Diamond
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Yep. High pressure, high vibration service is no issue for Swagelok. To be clear- these are not the same compression fittings found at Ace Hardware.
cosmopedro
Plastic
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I used a ton of Swagelok back in the 80’s… not sure why I didn’t think of them for this application. Prolly cause I live in a small town where the parts folks responded would be “Swage WHAT?” accompanied by a blank stare…
cosmopedro
Plastic
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Southwestern VT… I’ll look online.
MwTech Inc
Titanium
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Well..........I;m going to keep a watch on social media for a kid getting burned to death from tightening hose clamps on a Ford truck...........really??
Weird family love going on here
Weird family love going on here
cosmopedro
Plastic
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Scrapyards are scarce - and 2001 4-cyl 5-spd Rangers even more so…RockAuto doesn’t sell this line…
cosmopedro
Plastic
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So, when did Practical Machinist become Critical Machinist? I missed that post, I guess… never said it was either a perfect solution OR a permanent one - just tryna hold things together until we can tear into it properly. Which means warm enough to put the truck up on jack stands in driveway.
MwTech Inc
Titanium
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Understand its cold......been there done that.......but you are putting him in a bad situation...
come on man ...common sense....... he's a kid.
He's going to smell gas and trying to help out Grandpa he's going in to tighten that clamp...
Whatever... your life... your family.......if this doesn't make sense to you ..
.I'm done here
come on man ...common sense....... he's a kid.
He's going to smell gas and trying to help out Grandpa he's going in to tighten that clamp...
Whatever... your life... your family.......if this doesn't make sense to you ..
.I'm done here
