Weve been throwing aroudn the idea of increasing our capabilites with a larger machine, ive posted about a year ago about the hardinge v1000 and doosan dnm6700 but i cam across the quaser line recently and they price with sandard options is attractive enough to take a second look. I know quaser has been making machines for other brands for a long time, hardinge, matsurra, etc but both those machines have thier own spindles. looking for some feedback if any out there on reliablity, accuracy etc (real world) not whats on paper. Quaser is not largely popular in us but i have a dealer close enough that has good support. We would be looking at the MV204 40 taper 50x27.5 travels. Anyone have experience with the quaser line?
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DouglasJRizzo
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I know of a shop in Long Island that has two. No real issues, but the machines don't see daily use. It looks decent enough. Can the dealer arrange a visit somewhere?
There is several shops I deal with that have them. I've never heard anything bad.
Renegade212
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The V1000 is built in the Quasar factory. Mine 19' was anyway. Absolutely love the machine but now that hardinge went to fanuc control over the Mitts ill take my money elsewhere. Will be following this thread closely as I'm also interested in the quasar. One nice thing is it looks like you can load the mag without having to run the tools through the spindle. Huge deal!!!
Alloy Mcgraw
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I have a couple V1000s bought in the last few years with Mits M80 controls, I think built in the Quasar factory as well. Great for the money.
Had Quasar quote a vmc a few years back, but they are sold/serviced in my area by the same place that sells Kitamura...Or were at the time. The comparable Kit was only a few $K more, and they really were pushing those.
At that time, they quoted me a Fanuc OI-MF control, never mentioned a Mits option. Wasn't aware that Quasar offered an M80 control in the states? Did you have one quoted as such?
Looking under the hood they look like solid machines for the class/money.
EnginCycles
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I spent a good amount of time searching for an extended travel Y axis machine and eventually landed on Micro Dynamics and their Tera line. I have the 40V which is a 40"x28" travel VMC with a Mits control. The machine is made and based on Kitamura VMC's that use linear ways. It is made in the same facility that makes the linear way Kitamura's. I have had excellent support from my dealer who happens to be the Kitamura dealer as well. I highly recommend it.
-Drew
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I Believe Quaser will put whatever spindle brand, drive, or control you want, they use all the main brands in thier factory since they build for other MT's so we could order any of the following fanuc, mit,siemens or heidenein. Even option the matsurra spindle, in fact i believe most quasers shipped to the states have the matsura spindle standard. That said we are also looking at a yama seiki BM boxway machine, would love the quaser and price is reasonable for what they are, but it is still a little more than we were looking to spend.
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fmari --MariTool-
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Ive had mine for 6 years now. Doesn't get used everyday but never let us down and is a solid machine. Built with all high quality components. We upgraded ours with the 60 station side mount. Dual contact CAT40. Great machine.
Funny was just looking at your website pricing out dual contact holders before you commented
Renegade212
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Drew,
I'm looking for a new vmc. Like stated about, love the hardinge v1000 I have with a mitts but hate the fanuc control that they new offer as standarf. Apparently you can still special order the v1000 with the mitts as hardinge has 2 tears remaining in their contract with quasar but the sales team hasn't gotten back to me and its been over a week. Considering the ez line from Mazak but you've peaked my interest here. Never heard of the builder but it looks like its worth a solid look. Any way I could pick your brain before I get ahold of them?
EnginCycles
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Feel free to PM me for easier contact.
Renegade212
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I didnt quote a Quasar but was told they will put any control you want on it. Im going to look at a Micro Dynamics V40 next week like Drew mentioned. The HP on this thing is unheard of for a 40" 40 taper machine "40hp". The Mitts control is fully loaded with one of the highest look aheads on the market factory standard. Im a diamond in the rough kind of guy and it looks like the micro dynamics machines will do laps around my V1000s. My dealer in Michigan for the MD machines also sells Quasar and has been to both the quasar and MD factories which is where the Kitamura my centers were.built previously. His comments were the Micro machine are Kitamuras on steroids for less $$. Im excited to say the least.....
Well, we went with a yama seiki bm-1500, deal was too good to pass up and has good local support. 40 taper dual contact, 40hp, 15k spindle. 59x29 travels. we will see how it goes. Frank, we bought some tools from you, hopefully we will get the machine in within the next week or 2 so we can try them out.
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TAIWA NUMBA WAAN
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How'd it turn out? I remember a few years ago I was looking at buying a quaser VMC and they had the option of a Heidenhain control with a 60kw HSK spindle, also a BBT50 with 15k rpm (not sure how that works) and 40 HP continuous.
I didn't know the other builder you listed gave beefy spindle options like that.
The Yama Seiki has been great so far, had issues with probe and tool setter communicating the with fanuc, but that seems to be sorted out, and not the builders error by any means, more of a fanuc renishaw problem. It is just a CT40 Big plus not CT50, but they do have that as an option. Fit and finish i was impressed and at about 75k less than any copetitor we got quotes from with all the options we wanted. This machine has 2 coolant pumps, a chiller, thru air, thru spindle coolant, programmable coolant nozzles, boxways all 3 axis and a royal mist collector and it operates about 15 decibals quieter than our haas mini mill.
TAIWA NUMBA WAAN
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When they say the spindle is 40hp, is that at 100% load, or is that absolute peak power? You said the thing was 75k less than competitors..... The last quote I got on a 60 inch VMC in Taiwan was 80 thousand dollars, so I'm wondering if you paid 5,000
When they say the spindle is 40hp, is that at 100% load, or is that absolute peak power? You said the thing was 75k less than competitors..... The last quote I got on a 60 inch VMC in Taiwan was 80 thousand dollars, so I'm wondering if you paid 5,000
Spindle is 47HP peak and i believe 25HP continuous. We were drilling a 2.125" dia hole with a spade drill the other day fairly aggressively with the thru coolant and i dont think the spindle load went over 7%. No this was in the 170k range, this quaser was in the 240k range and the doosan was in the 250k range with options.
Mickey_D
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If you can live without side doors for super long parts look at the Okuma 560s. Okuma can get very aggressive on pricing and beat Doosan, Mazak, Makino, and Haas was only a little bit cheaper on the last one I bought. Our Okumas run about 40 hours a week and do everything from tiny aluminum parts to 2" thick A514 steel. Love them and they make a lot of money for me.
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