automatic band saw levelers or blocks

Hello.. i have an amada HA250w.. I just got it , its an older one.. Is there a good way to raise this up a few inches? it has places for bolts or adjusters, what do you guys do to get machines like this off the floor..
i was going to leave it but our roller tables are too tall by a couple inches.. Even the machine spec says 700MM to the height of the rollers , but the real dimension is way short of that now..
thanks for any help

zschary said:

Hello.. i have an amada HA250w.. I just got it , its an older one.. Is there a good way to raise this up a few inches? it has places for bolts or adjusters, what do you guys do to get machines like this off the floor..
i was going to leave it but our roller tables are too tall by a couple inches.. Even the machine spec says 700MM to the height of the rollers , but the real dimension is way short of that now..
thanks for any help

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heavy wall square tubing, add bolt down tabs to the tubing to anchor to floor, and use the saws mounting tabs to bolt to the tubing. You will need to level the saw out, so make sure you can use the adjusters still.

A simple rigging trick or a way to raise a machine be it a band saw or grinder is to put a jack under the outside edge in the 2nd picture and raise it up say 4", then slide a 2 x 4 under the center or balance point and let the jack down. Then the opposite end that is hard to lift will "teeter" up so you can place a leveling shim or a wedge shaped leveler under that end. Then jack it up again and pull out the 2 x 4 and slide in levelers under the center and jack end and lower. These are expensive but make the job easy. I have also put paper gasket material between the floor and wedge to help with vibration. https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/88000823

i like the idea of thick wall tubing, seems like a better cost.. is it really necessary to level the machine, if its sitting on a flat floor that is pretty much level.. I read the manual and there is some notes on how to tilt the machine for coolant flow or other, is there anything else i could get in trouble with if i just put it up on some 3" square wall tubing and did not level the machine.. ? thanks

zschary said:

i like the idea of thick wall tubing, seems like a better cost.. is it really necessary to level the machine, if its sitting on a flat floor that is pretty much level.. I read the manual and there is some notes on how to tilt the machine for coolant flow or other, is there anything else i could get in trouble with if i just put it up on some 3" square wall tubing and did not level the machine.. ? thanks

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You can bolt and tack the angle saw feet to your tube, weld gusseted angle feet to tube to jack and anchor into the floor.
You level the and anchor machine, these machines are not rigid enough to keep twist out. Level it with a good level (lamb tools, starret) in all directions. After that plumb and true wheels to each other... guides...
If you have rolls do not forget the string line across datum (fixed vice) for alignment.

I think my HA250 is sitting on top of two lengths of 6 x 8?10? I thought it was kinda hokey when I bought it, but now I can't imagine using this saw 10 inches lower.

We did the square tubing thing under our Cosen band saw with levelers under that (has a similar base to the saw pictured above). It's just high enough that we can get under it with a pallet jack to move it if needed. IMO, stuff like this is best kept simple as it's a messy environment and the more parts there are, the more surfaces to fill up with chips and kitty litter.

In regards to the leveling, from my experience it can help with coolant flow, but has a bigger benefit on how your stock lays out across your supports, rollers, etc. The closer to level the saw is, the less you'll need to adjust your stock supports when you move them around. IMO a band saw is something you want solidly positioned in such a way it never needs to be moved... but is also easy to move cause there's always that one piece that's too long.

zschary said:

Hello.. i have an amada HA250w.. I just got it , its an older one.. Is there a good way to raise this up a few inches? it has places for bolts or adjusters, what do you guys do to get machines like this off the floor..
i was going to leave it but our roller tables are too tall by a couple inches.. Even the machine spec says 700MM to the height of the rollers , but the real dimension is way short of that now..
thanks for any help

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toe jack, pick it up and slide any steel that will fit underneath it to correct height. if need make leveling feet and threaded rod etc.

I bought an older HA250W a couple of years ago to use as a backup saw and it came mounted on a 4x4x3/16" wall square tubing framework that raises it up 12". Unfortunately I got sidetracked on other stuff and never touched it and our Hyd-Mech shit the bed over the Christmas holidays and I had to do an emergency replacement with a Daito Seiki (really like it). Only bad thing about the Daito is it is the same height as the Amada (Japanese saw shops must be manned by midgets) so I need to raise it up like the Amada is.

I am putting the saw up on 4.5 square thick wall tubing. Thanks for all the tips,
Going to use three lengths i believe to cover all mounting pads, unless one is in the center where i can't see.. Will bolt to the machine and run some hard 1/8" rubber between the floor and the tubing for vibration.. Do i need to mount or bolt to the floor? Saw is very level where its sitting..