Some guys just love their Glocks

animal12 · Jan 10, 2023

I know this guy does

I gotto wonder how long that cat ws following him ?
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clarkmag · Jan 10, 2023

G22 with a welded up feed ramp I did 20 years ago.

triumph406 · Jan 11, 2023

I was atb the range Friday evening. There was a guy doing very tight groups a couple of bays over. When I finished I went over and asked him what he was shooting with.
"Glock 34, want to try it?"

Sure I said, shot a couple of clips, didn't like the sights or trigger that much. I asked him if he wanted to try my Springfield XD.
"Sure that's the pistol I really wanted to buy but couldn't find one for sale"

He ran a few clips thru it, much to my chagrin, more accurately then I can shot it. But more importantly on the 3rd clip he was shooting it better then his Glock 34.

PegroProX440 · Jan 11, 2023

I know many guys that love their 34's for accuracy on paper and IDPA. Never shot one myself.

michiganbuck · Jan 11, 2023

I guess with not having a handgun throwing rocks at a stalking lion might be second best or pepper spray. I saw a mountain lion at my camp twice...Luckey, both times I was in the cabin looking out the window.
My old S&W 38 special can likely match any handgun..except for quick clip reload

FredC · Jan 11, 2023

If a Glock is reliable and fairly accurate why not? I would guess that are fairly light and compact making for easy carry. Mountain lions are fairly lightly constructed and do not attack in situations where they will likely be injured. Shooting a couple of rounds in front of it where it got sprayed with dust and gravel as well as the noise seems entirely appropriate.

A 350 pound wounded boar that just ran up to a net fence and cannot find the opening to go under and wheels about and comes after you is a different story. He covered the 20 yards to get to me in a heartbeat. There you need stopping power. I am here today because I had stopping power that day.

michiganbuck · Jan 11, 2023

Not having a gun...
A knife is not very good because a cat does not see that as a danger and a cat at knife-close is too dangerous. Backing away with fear makes one a cat's target choice.
Perhaps pulling your belt and hard-swinging the buckle at the grass with your knife in your other hand might deter the cat.

likely belt swinging at a bear would do little good, but much better than trying to run..

FredC · Jan 11, 2023

michiganbuck said:
Not having a gun...
A knife is not very good because a cat does not see that as a danger and a cat knife close is too dangerous. Backing away with fear makes one a target choice.
Perhaps pulling your belt and hard-swinging it at the grass with your knife might deter the cat

Yeah, I have heard you play dead for a grizzly bear and fight like hell if attacked by a mountain lion or black bear. With a bear I would have to ask "excuse me I cannot tell the difference, which are you a grizzly or black bear?"

Since you brought it up, do not drop your knife!

michiganbuck · Jan 11, 2023

My hunting camp is often shared with black bears but for many years they have never threatened me, I should carry but don't. carrying a shovel or chain saw a gun is something extra to lug about.

Scottl · Jan 11, 2023

FredC said:
If a Glock is reliable and fairly accurate why not? I would guess that are fairly light and compact making for easy carry. Mountain lions are fairly lightly constructed and do not attack in situations where they will likely be injured. Shooting a couple of rounds in front of it where it got sprayed with dust and gravel as well as the noise seems entirely appropriate.

A 350 pound wounded boar that just ran up to a net fence and cannot find the opening to go under and wheels about and comes after you is a different story. He covered the 20 yards to get to me in a heartbeat. There you need stopping power. I am here today because I had stopping power that day.

As you said, they are ambush hunters and usually don't like to attack a potentially formidable opponent facing them. Years ago I saw a documentary about man eating tigers in the Sundarbans in India where people who needed to be in the forest wore masks of human faces on the back of their heads as a possible deterrent. No idea whether it actually worked but it ought to at least give them pause.

Years ago I saw pictures of European "hunting bayonets", many meant to mount on the muzzles of double guns and thought it a strange idea until after I spoke with a guy who had his leg ripped open by a boar. Certainly better than a knife because it gives you a little distance. They also often had boar spears, most of which had a bar type cross guard just behind the blade.

Scottl · Jan 11, 2023

michiganbuck said:
My hunting camp is often shared with black bears but for many years they have never threatened me, I should carry but don't. carrying a shovel or chain saw a gun is something extra to lug about.

Bear spray is fairly light in a belt hanger and certainly better than hand to hand combat with a bear.

DrHook · Jan 11, 2023

"Bring enough gun"...

triumph406 · Jan 11, 2023

Luckily camping in the Hi desert of California, bears are not a problem, meth heads are. Figured if I ever needed an excuse to get a 45 1911 that would be it.

cyanidekid · Jan 11, 2023

HELLL NO! a cat that would stalk and attack an adult like that is NOT getting a warning shot from me, are you freakin kidding?

I'm NOT holding a cell phone and I've got both hands on the gun and RAPID FIRE until it's no longer a threat.

I might have had the phone out when I saw it following me, but as soon as the ears went down and it sped up,
DROP THE PHONE! BOTH HANDS ON THE GUN! RAPID FIRE! ... and yes, the caps are absolutely called for.

but I probably would have fired a warning shot WAY sooner also.

just went back and watched it a few more times... It's actually when it arches its front haunches, and twitches
its tail that were actually the full on alarm to me.
ive grown up with the little relatives of these cats, and I know exactly what that means...

triumph406 · Jan 11, 2023

cyanidekid said:
HELLL NO! a cat that would stalk and attack an adult like that is NOT getting a warning shot from me, are you freakin kidding?

I'm NOT holding a cell phone and I've got both hands on the gun and RAPID FIRE until it's no longer a threat.

I might have had the phone out when I saw it following me, but as soon as the ears went down and it sped up,
DROP THE PHONE! BOTH HANDS ON THE GUN! RAPID FIRE! ... and yes, the caps are absolutely called for.

but I probably would have fired a warning shot WAY sooner also.

I think it's safe to assume that if the cat had got any closer the person would have dropped the phone and taken care of business.

It's also safe to assume the guy in the video could chew gum/walk/talk/ and shoot at the same time. He was in control.

Anybody under 40 probably wouldn't think twice about wiping the phone out, even in the face of danger. When your in your 60's (me) there's better uses of your limited mental resources then trying to defend your self and frame the shot at the same time.

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I probably would have been crapping my pants, actually, not probably 100%

MilGunsmith · Jan 11, 2023

The camera angle looks like it might have been a GoPro camera mounted on a chest harness. My nephew has one for fishing.

cyanidekid · Jan 11, 2023

triumph406 said:
I think it's safe to assume that if the cat had got any closer the person would have dropped the phone and taken care of business.

It's also safe to assume the guy in the video could chew gum/walk/talk/ and shoot at the same time. He was in control.

Anybody under 40 probably wouldn't think twice about wiping the phone out, even in the face of danger. When your in your 60's (me) there's better uses of your limited mental resources then trying to defend your self and frame the shot at the same time.

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I probably would have been crapping my pants, actually, not probably 100%

"he was in control" ... ?.

1) a reasonable warning shot would have been much sooner, and the second hit the ground in front of it if the first didn't result in it immediately running off.

2) its obvious this cat isn't afraid of gunfire. its not even rattled at all. its like it was saying "this guy isn't serious. he's my lunch if I want, but I'll go find something that won't shoot me by accident "

3) when he finally did discharge his weapon, it was so close and nearing an actual final attack, (I'd estimate 4 yards, don't forget it was almost certainly a lot closer than it looks given the phone cam defaults to wide angle), it was by no means certain that if it did continue the attack it couldn't have reached him even if he did hit it with a subsequent shot. he well could have been injured. unlikely killed, but... in control... no.

cyanidekid · Jan 11, 2023

MilGunsmith said:
The camera angle looks like it might have been a GoPro camera mounted on a chest harness. My nephew has one for fishing.

if that was the case, you should have seen two arms holding a gun, one at least. no.

triumph406 · Jan 11, 2023

cyanidekid said:
"he was in control" ... ?.

but... in control... no.

Did you hear him crying like a bitch? Crying for his mother? Screaming his head off?

Most people would have panicked and run thru the whole clip and sprayed bullets everywhere but the Lion, then fumbled around trying to drop the clip and put a new clip in. By which time the Lion has either attacked or run off. The guy in the video was very carefull with how many shots he used.

He was in control. Maybe not of his bowels, but most everything else.

He didn't die, and apparently neither did the Mountain Lion, so the guy was carefull

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Go and find a Mountain Lion and lets see what you would do. Could you even shot straight in a stressful situation? Not sure everybody could.

FredC · Jan 11, 2023

I was going to ask if you could kill a mountain lion in California. Went back and looked at the video again, elk hunter in Idaho. Looked to me like the first shot went wide and did not spay him with gravel.
My wife said she saw a mountain lion out the window on our place and I saw tracks on the neighbors' place a couple of times many years ago. That is the end of my personal experience.

I have seen my domestic cats back off from noisy little dogs they were fully capable of killing and eating. So, I do not think cats like loud noise very much. The cat I have now will disappear for a couple of days if I shoot a 22 while he is around.

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