Taking a poll of those interested in a 10EE Follow Rest casting.

I don't know if Gary at Martin Model would be interested in another casting.
This is a poll of how many Monarch 10ee owners would be interested in a Follow Rest casting. I would so that's 1.
I don't have a follow rest to send to Martin model as a pattern so someone with one would have to loan theirs out.

When I first called Mr. Martin about the Taper Att. Bed Clamp he first wanted a commitment of 20 buyers of castings. He later posted that he would cast it with ten committed buyers. I'm sure ten wasn't a profit for him. Eventually 20 buyers came forward. That great, now we have a source for that casting.

I'm posting this poll in advance of talking to Gary about a casting to show Interest in a casting in advance.

I think this poll should be at least a 4-month poll because some members don't drop in daily. Step up gentlemen.

There is another casting that may have some interest but doubtful in the numbers needed. It's in this old thread. Add Taper Attachment to the poll if interested. I have mine to loan as a Pattern.


Post if interested.
#1- I'll buy one Follow rest casting. Need 19 more

I would be interested depending on price and what style, there we’re at least three different versions?

Kevin

bsg said:

I would be interested depending on price and what style, there we’re at least three different versions?

Kevin

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Not to mention the difference between round and square dials.

bsg aand rakort
Those are specifics that I didn't know. It may not be worth the time to try. Price would be a deciding factor with me also.

https://www.practicalmachinist.com/...low-rests-were-maed-for-monarch-10ees.224797/

Yes quite a few options.

Those follow rests aren't simple castings like I had remembered. I must have had S.B. follow rests stuck in my head. I think this thread of isn't much use.

Well if it comes to anything, I'd be interested in one for a square dial. But i too need to research some of the differences.

I would also have to research what the square dial looks like. Then a model would be needed. I would also lean toward the square dial casting. I don't do searches to buy one but from reading on the forum they aren't plentiful.

Not sure where I obtained this photo depicting 10EE follower rests...perhaps here on PM.
As I recall, a much simpler version for the round dial lathe exists, too.

I got this one used from monarch a few years back for $300 for my square dial.

Monarch also said they had a casting type (made to order) which was designed to allow linear scales to be installed, I assume this meant more clearance on the right side of the cross slide. I didn’t opt for that since it was vastly more expensive.

But if someone starts a project they should consider that.

mister honey said:

Not sure where I obtained this photo depicting 10EE follower rests...perhaps here on PM.
As I recall, a much simpler version for the round dial lathe exists, too.

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Nice picture. The simple follower (not pictured) was made in two heights, for both round and square dial.

The follower rest on the right uses fingers that have the same design as those in the steady rest, so it would make the most sense to reproduce. If it could be reduced in height ½” it could be used on a round dial.

a few pictures, on a square dial. a small bit of fitting will be needed since this follower wasn't delivered with this lathe, one leg of the follower interferes with the cross-slide slightly.

you can see there is really zero clearance for a crossslide-mounted DRO scale.

But I would think if a single casting were made without the slots for the fingers milled yet, it could be adapted to both square and round dials?

If the saddle mount portion of the casting was made 1" wider it would bridge a DRO scale. OR, reproduce the original design which mounts on the left wing and center web of the saddle. I have one if you need some measured drawings or photos.

Brandenberger said:

But I would think if a single casting were made without the slots for the fingers milled yet, it could be adapted to both square and round dials?

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If the two feet of the casting were made ¼" thicker, then a round dial solution would be to mill ¼" off the bottom, and position the slots ¼" lower, which would not look bad at all. That works because a round dial cross slide is ¼" shorter than a square dial cross slide, so the clearance under the bridge of the casting would end up the same. The other ¼" height difference between round and square dial occurs in the compound.

One thing that remains to check is the fit for a cross slide with the rear dovetail. The photos look like there is plenty of clearance, but I haven't tried that combination.

I'm potentially in for a casting, depending upon what design you guys opt for, clearance for a Newell Spherosyn scales
would be a big plus.

a, I could go for one. I have an early round dial though.

I would like one.

Brandenberger said:

I got this one used from monarch a few years back for $300 for my square dial.
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Here's photo of my round-dial follower-rest:

I don't know if other versions were available. It appears to be the same version as that shown in round-dial parts picture E-11. The parts-picture indicates that the rest came with two different followers with different size V's. I can tell you that the mounting hole locations for round- and square-dial follower rests are not the same.

Personally, I like this version of square-dial 3-point follower rest:



Here it is sitting on my round-dial:

Note that the rest's mounting lug for the left wing is several inches from the tapped hole for the round-dial rest. The rest has lips that reach across back side of the saddle (shown in the third photo, above) that interfere with the round-dial's taper attachment.

The late, great Harry Bloom wrote an excellent article for the November/December 2011 issue of The Home Shop Machinist, detailing the family of 2-point, roller, follower rests that he built for his three Monarch lathes, models 10EE, CK and CY:


Village Press, which publishes HSM, claims to have a back issue of the Nov-Dec 2011 issue in stock, available for $11 plus shipping:

An interesting feature of Harry's rest is that it has a separate riser and dovetail bridge, allowing the location of the rest to be adjusted as needed. Since the dimensions of the riser itself are determined by the maximum diameter of stock that you intend to machine with the rest, it occurs to me that a single riser could be used on all three machines, with the height the bridge changed to accommodate the swing of the machine in question.

Here is Harry's 10EE follower rest:


And his Monarch CK rest:


All of Harry's rests were built up by welding flame-cut plates together. Note that both versions allow for installing the scale for a DRO on the right side of the top slide.

My vote would be to build up a single, 3-point riser, similar to the square-dial 3-point follower rest shown in my previous post. It could be made up as a kit of flame- or water-jet-cut plates, machined by the buyer. The kit for the bridge could include side pieces tall enough for say, a Monarch CY, to be machined down, as needed, by the end user.

Finally, here's a couple of photos of a 2-point follower rest that I like:

I don't remember where I got the photos. The knobs have a Monarch look to them, but beyond that I don't know. An interesting feature of this rest is that the riser bolts to the bridge. Again, a cast riser of this type could be used on different lathes by changing the bridge.

Isn't there some value in having it made from cast iron? Cast iron is better than steel for its vibration dampening effect. A fabricated steady rest would be less good in that regard.