10ee Micro Gaging Diameter Dial

rcn11thacr · Jan 9, 2023

HI,
I have searched and not been able to find much information, so i ask: Does anyone have any documents available in regard to the proper procedures for using a cross-feed "Micro Gaging Diameter Dial'?
I have one on my 1963 30 inch 10ee and I'm not real certain how to use it. I found a few comments below which included a document from Monarch, but nothing detailing how to specifically use it.

10EE odd cross-slide dial question, along with a trim strip material question.

I'm refurbing a '50 10EE and I have a couple of questions. First is this cross-slide dial seems a bit unusual. It is longer than others I've seen and has an internally geared extra ring, like what I would assume a metric/imp dial would have, but it is only imperial. I've never seen one like...

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Thanks.

guythatbrews · Jan 9, 2023

That is interesting. I've never seen one.

bsg · Jan 9, 2023

rcn11thacr said:
HI,
I have searched and not been able to find much information, so i ask: Does anyone have any documents available in regard to the proper procedures for using a cross-feed "Micro Gaging Diameter Dial'?
I have one on my 1963 30 inch 10ee and I'm not real certain how to use it. I found a few comments below which included a document from Monarch, but nothing detailing how to specifically use it.

10EE odd cross-slide dial question, along with a trim strip material question.

I'm refurbing a '50 10EE and I have a couple of questions. First is this cross-slide dial seems a bit unusual. It is longer than others I've seen and has an internally geared extra ring, like what I would assume a metric/imp dial would have, but it is only imperial. I've never seen one like...

www.practicalmachinist.com

Thanks.

The description is pretty clear how to use it........

Kevin

rimcanyon · Jan 10, 2023

The one thing you should do is remove it and thoroughly clean and lube it. I have seen a few of these that were ruined by trying to run them without oil or when they were gummed up. There is a vey small pinion that drives the planetary gears and which will shear off its teeth if there is too much friction or resistance to free turning.

guythatbrews · Jan 10, 2023

bsg said:
The description is pretty clear how to use it........

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Kevin

Forgive me for being obtuse, but I guess I'm confused by the micro part of the name of this dial. Is it just a dial that counts the 1/4" full revolutions of the crossfeed screw so you can "read the diameter directly", like .759? That is what I understand from the advert. Or can it read less than .001, which is what the micro means to me.

rke[pler · Monday at 12:13 PM

It's a 'regular' dial with a geared section to count dial revolutions. I have an older one from a round dial and only the regular dial will zero set.

I don't know of a dial assembly with less than .001 indications (maybe a vernier?). There's always the "set the compound at 7 degrees to the work" trick so the compound dial shows tenths on the dial.

guythatbrews · Monday at 12:19 PM

rke[pler said:
It's a 'regular' dial with a geared section to count dial revolutions. I have an older one from a round dial and only the regular dial will zero set.

I don't know of a dial assembly with less than .001 indications (maybe a vernier?). There's always the "set the compound at 7 degrees to the work" trick so the compound dial shows tenths on the dial.

Thanks! I get it now. I have seen those. It is a funny name for it though. Maybe some sales guy's idea. It does sound better than "counting" or "accumulating " dial.

Ultradog MN · Monday at 5:21 PM

Optional on the 12CK too - as was the travadial.
Both dials on this crossfeed can be zeroed.
There is a screw you remove to oil it.
PS, I never use it.

rcn11thacr · 2023-01-18T09:15:52-0600

bsg said:
The description is pretty clear how to use it........

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Kevin

Kevin,
I think one of my main reasons for not fully understanding the process/procedures for using this dial is that mine is missing the switch(?) on the front face of it. I should have mentioned that previously. I'm not sure what to call it (or what its purpose is) but it is broken off on mine. The center bolt with the 2 holes in it that holds the handle was (lost?) and replaced at some point with a regular bolt on mine. Anyone happen to have either or both of these available for sale?

rke[pler · 2023-01-18T15:55:13-0600

By 'switch' do you mean the dial locking lever? Here's a pic of the lock bolt and dial lock lever I made for a spareish dial assembly.

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