Hardinge HC Compound Rest/Adjustable Tool Holder?

I'm looking for an adjustable-angle tool holder to hold square tools for my HC, almost like having a compound rest on the turret. Has anything like that ever existed? I'm looking on the internet but not seeing anything.

Are you looking for a tool holder that will allow you to set a square tool at an angle or you do you want to feed a square tool at an angle?
If you want to hold a square tool at an angle look at the Hardinge C20 Triple Tool Holder. By just putting one tool in the center position, you could tighten it down to some fairly radical angles. C5 quad tool holder could do the same.
I looked these up in my 1990 total tooling catalog. Back in the seventies I was at a shop that had 3 HC machines and they purchased a tool slide that bolted to the top of the HC turret and could be set at reasonable angles. It was a new Hardinge compound attachment and had about an inch of travel with a small lever for feeding. It had nice positives stops. It is not in my catalog and there may not have been many made. I am fairly certain it had a 5/8 ID bore for boring bars. I suppose a 3/8 bushing could have held a square tool in that bore.

I just did a search for HC compound slides and came up with nothing. Perhaps it was a one off special built for Phoenix Automatic Machine. If they built several and were in a catalog for a while maybe Larry has a catalog with them.

Thanks Fred. When I typed the message, I wasn't thinking correctly. I do want to feed the tool so it would be a mini compound. I couldn't find anything either except a few import-made universal compounds. I might purchase one and make my own.

Hardinge does make lever-feed type tools that could be adapted to a chucker.

For building your own take a look at model T18 5/8, part number ST 0011214. It has screw holes on both sides. Travel is very small 9/32. I remember the one I used had near 1 inch. Only had it in my hands a couple of times, but that was 50 years ago maybe it was less.

jim rozen said:

Hardinge does make lever-feed type tools that could be adapted to a chucker.

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They even make one for the chucker, called the C6 taper slide. They did some design changes, so you may find a C6, a C6-A or a C6-B. I probably have one I would sell. Takes 5/8" round shank tools or bushings. Boring tools can do bores or O. D. turning.

https://shop.hardinge.com/All-Products/Repair-Parts/Turning/C6-Taper-Slide/p/STB0011210 Fortunately, there are used ones around, so you do not have to pay the $1813.00 current new price.

They also made a BA bed adapter to let the chucker accept a double tool lever cross slide for a DSM59. That cross slide can hold a straight and taper turning attachment made for it (different from the C6) and would probably fit OK between the headstock and turret carriage. I suspect a compound slide rest from a DV59 would also work on the BA, though it may not fit in the limited bed space between the headstock and the turret carriage.

Larry

I was going to mention the C-6 Taper Turning Tool but see that Larry posted that already.

Larry,
That is the one, it was not in my catalog and I have not been able to navigate the Hardinge site for available tools. There was no info in your link other than not to eat it as it might cause cancer if you live in California. From your photos I would guess it has at least a 1/2 travel.

FredC said:

Larry,
That is the one, it was not in my catalog and I have not been able to navigate the Hardinge site for available tools. There was no info in your link other than not to eat it as it might cause cancer if you live in California. From your photos I would guess it has at least a 1/2 travel.

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The 1990 print "Total Tooling" catalog shows the C6 has .875" max travel. The D13 straight and taper turning slide for the DSM59 has 1.75" max travel.

Larry

Larry, Thanks.
Chapter 8 page 159.
I had paged through the first 2 chapters several times looking for this tool.

For anyone else looking for Hardinge machine specific tools, there is a directory in Chapter 21 of this 1990 Total Tooling Catalog. HC stuff starts on page 244.

Thank you for all the replies. After looking and thinking about making a compound tool holder for the turret, I’ve decided that it would be impossible without sacrificing rigidity and the use of the turret (while the compound was in place). I’ve wanted a HLV-H for some time but like always, it’s just not in the budget. But wait, there‘s more (and you may ask how I could forget this), I have a DSM59 sitting in the back of the shop unused for a couple of years now! I can get a tailstock and cross side/compound for it, correct? Are they all the same height and bed width? I forget exactly the year of mine, maybe late 50’s? I would have to check the serial number.

You will probably get more answers to your question in a new thread with a new title. I think what you want to do will just need the right parts, but will defer to those who know for sure. Is the DSM59 bed the same length as HLV-H?

The original DV/DSM59 was made from 1946 to 1960, when a new model DV/DSM59 was introduced with the same name. The 1960 design included a new tailstock and a new slide rest, but the bed width and swing did not change, so the new stuff fits the older machines. I have spare tailstocks in good condition of both the 1946 and the 1960 style. I also have spares of both styles of slide rest. There are often some of each on eBay.

Larry