42" x 120" American Super-Productive in Ohio

Andy FitzGibbon · Dec 9, 2022

No affiliation. Just ran across it on Facebook and thought it looked less abandoned than most of these big old ones. 27k lbs... in East Liverpool, OH.

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johnoder · Dec 9, 2022

Brochure thanks to Greg Menke

http://pounceatron.dreamhosters.com/docs/atw/atw-superproductive-lathe-42in-bulletin-86-nodate-si.pdf

Milland · Dec 9, 2022

I do need a replacement for my 10EE, but this seems a touch small...

Seriously, this is calling to me, but I will have to bind myself to the mast to not give in...

moonlight machine · Dec 9, 2022

Milland said:
I do need a replacement for my 10EE, but this seems a touch small...

Seriously, this is calling to me, but I will have to bind myself to the mast to not give in...

Just go get it.

RC Mech · Dec 9, 2022

moonlight machine said:
Just go get it.

Yeah seriously. In 5 years when the novelty wears off I’ll buy it off you.

gbent · Dec 9, 2022

According to the brochure, its over 30,000#. To big for my forklift.

Milland · Dec 9, 2022

RC Mech said:
Yeah seriously. In 5 years when the novelty wears off I’ll buy it off you.

I object, sir! I haven't offered my 1945 Monarch 27N (~30" x 180" CC) for sale, and it's been well over nine years since I got it.

[Wadya gimme fer it?]

MyLilMule · Dec 9, 2022

Too small for steam locomotive wheels. Hard pass.

moonlight machine · Dec 10, 2022

Maybe I'll get it for my pen making hobby.

scsmith42 · Dec 10, 2022

Someone will come along and snap that right up for their home shop!

Garwood · Dec 10, 2022

My friend recently scrapped a nice 60" x 480" 100HP manual lathe. Way beefier than that Pacemaker. Nobody wanted it at any price.

Seems if you're going to devote a huge area in a nice building with a heavy crane and skilled machinists to a lathe it really has to be a cnc one. Way too much of today's big lathe work is not practical or possible to do on a manual I am told. Big stuff has been designed with cnc in mind for 3+ decades now.

hvnlymachining · Dec 11, 2022

Garwood said:
My friend recently scrapped a nice 60" x 480" 100HP manual lathe. Way beefier than that Pacemaker. Nobody wanted it at any price.

Seems if you're going to devote a huge area in a nice building with a heavy crane and skilled machinists to a lathe it really has to be a cnc one. Way too much of today's big lathe work is not practical or possible to do on a manual I am told. Big stuff has been designed with cnc in mind for 3+ decades now.

Somebody forgot to tell my customers, I use my "antiquated" 40" American High Duty weekly. Paid for itself on the first job, that's the beauty of lower priced big old iron. A lot of the work is lower paying stuff, but far too large for my 20" lathes.

Garwood · Dec 11, 2022

hvnlymachining said:
Somebody forgot to tell my customers, I use my "antiquated" 40" American High Duty weekly. Paid for itself on the first job, that's the beauty of lower priced big old iron. A lot of the work is lower paying stuff, but far too large for my 20" lathes.

You didn't pay for that lathe, pay to move it in, pay for the foundation, pay to build the building to house it right? You inherited your dad's shop right?

Would the work you do on your big manual lathe pay for the cost to move an 80,000 lb machine today?

I ran the numbers. No way I could make it work in my shop. I could put 3-5 cncs in the same space.

hvnlymachining · Dec 11, 2022

Actually, I talked my dad into buying it two years ago ( almost exactly) then worked for free until it was paid for by my labor. Both cost and shipping were paid back. My wife and I moved it in piece by piece. It weighs less slightly than 30,000 lbs.

As far as inheritance, no I just run the shop now, I don't own it.

pat pounden · Dec 13, 2022

hvnlymachining said:
Actually, I talked my dad into buying it two years ago ( almost exactly) then worked for free until it was paid for by my labor. Both cost and shipping were paid back. My wife and I moved it in piece by piece. It weighs less slightly than 30,000 lbs.

As far as inheritance, no I just run the shop now, I don't own it.

your wife deserves a raise!

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